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Do you consider him a true conservative?

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Postby nighthawk101 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:30 pm

Post your reasons why or why not below
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Postby Guess Who? » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:49 pm

I believe he is. I mean why would you not?
He's against
lance bass marriage
abortion
stem cells to a degree.

Tell me why this is important?
I mean if you want everything to be conservative then your a facist. To maintain a good government and country then you need to take the good aspects from each group of opinions. That's why our founding father's made this country using checks and balances to make sure one group or opinion didn't become dominent. So it was fair!
The press in my opinion ruin everything, they want a yes or no answer, not well yes and no some points are good others we need to work on. I myself am for stem cells (I consider myself conservative) but only to a certain degree, it's been prooven that you can take stem cells from umbilical cords after birth and with that it doesn't harm the child, but the media would scew that statement all to heck and leave out 'but only to a certain degree, it's been prooven that you can take stem cells from umbilical cords after birth and with that it doesn't harm the child' and I'd be stuck with this 'I myself am for stem cells'! Liberal would be smacked on my forehead faster than you can say it. This is why ppl like that fat guy, that wote F 9/11, are BAD!!!

I say that you should definitely have a stand, and that's good! But be open to some opinions or at least hear them out don't make a stand until you hear the details. If you don't and just stay with your party's belief then you become narrow minded, and narrow minded is stupidity, and stupidity is ignorance, ignorance leads to a weak society and country!
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Postby nighthawk101 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:03 pm

Guess Who? wrote:I believe he is. I mean why would you not?
He's against
lance bass marriage
abortion
stem cells to a degree.

Tell me why this is important?
I mean if you want everything to be conservative then your a facist. To maintain a good government and country then you need to take the good aspects from each group of opinions. That's why our founding father's made this country using checks and balances to make sure one group or opinion didn't become dominent. So it was fair!
The press in my opinion ruin everything, they want a yes or no answer, not well yes and no some points are good others we need to work on. I myself am for stem cells (I consider myself conservative) but only to a certain degree, it's been prooven that you can take stem cells from umbilical cords after birth and with that it doesn't harm the child, but the media would scew that statement all to heck and leave out 'but only to a certain degree, it's been prooven that you can take stem cells from umbilical cords after birth and with that it doesn't harm the child' and I'd be stuck with this 'I myself am for stem cells'! Liberal would be smacked on my forehead faster than you can say it. This is why ppl like that fat guy, that wote F 9/11, are BAD!!!

I say that you should definitely have a stand, and that's good! But be open to some opinions or at least hear them out don't make a stand until you hear the details. If you don't and just stay with your party's belief then you become narrow minded, and narrow minded is stupidity, and stupidity is ignorance, ignorance leads to a weak society and country!


Kid, do you even know what a fascist government is? I mean, really, do you know the details? Not just IT WAS ITALY!

Bush, IMO, is more a liberal now, than he was before the election. He is beginning to sicken me(although, Kerry is not the better choice). His guest worker program, his constant harrassment of the troops, his unwillingness to close the borders and take steps necessary to achieve true national security. The man has no sense of nationalism. He is more worried about how Mexico is faring than his own country.
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Postby nighthawk101 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:09 pm

Guess Who? wrote:He's against
lance bass marriage


He is? Remember that bill he proposed to make it make lance bass marriage illegal? He hasnt brought it up lately now that the election is over.
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Postby Lexon Avery » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:44 pm

wasnt that just state wide constitutions? and if not he wouldnt have to the american ppl desided
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Postby nighthawk101 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:50 pm

The amendment to the constitution didnt get very far... So he pushed for banning on the state level. In every state where the was a vote to make lance bass marriage illegal there was a landslide in favor of it. However, since then liberal judges have overturned the will of the people.

Back to Bush though. I also love the intelligence bill that he got going that allows states to issue driver licenses to illegals.
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Postby NateDawg2007 » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:28 pm

BUSH ROCKS!! Whitout him America would probably be dead NOW!!! Noone is big enough to take control of things like he did.
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Postby nighthawk101 » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:35 pm

NateDawg2007 wrote:BUSH ROCKS!! Whitout him America would probably be dead NOW!!! Noone is big enough to take control of things like he did.


Thank you for your completely idiotic and uneducated response. You're missing the point. He is not a true conservative.. as much as he likes America to believe. The man is more a liberal with every passing day.
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Postby Guess Who? » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:37 pm

nighthawk101 wrote:
Guess Who? wrote:I believe he is. I mean why would you not?
He's against
lance bass marriage
abortion
stem cells to a degree.

Tell me why this is important?
I mean if you want everything to be conservative then your a facist. To maintain a good government and country then you need to take the good aspects from each group of opinions. That's why our founding father's made this country using checks and balances to make sure one group or opinion didn't become dominent. So it was fair!
The press in my opinion ruin everything, they want a yes or no answer, not well yes and no some points are good others we need to work on. I myself am for stem cells (I consider myself conservative) but only to a certain degree, it's been prooven that you can take stem cells from umbilical cords after birth and with that it doesn't harm the child, but the media would scew that statement all to heck and leave out 'but only to a certain degree, it's been prooven that you can take stem cells from umbilical cords after birth and with that it doesn't harm the child' and I'd be stuck with this 'I myself am for stem cells'! Liberal would be smacked on my forehead faster than you can say it. This is why ppl like that fat guy, that wote F 9/11, are BAD!!!

I say that you should definitely have a stand, and that's good! But be open to some opinions or at least hear them out don't make a stand until you hear the details. If you don't and just stay with your party's belief then you become narrow minded, and narrow minded is stupidity, and stupidity is ignorance, ignorance leads to a weak society and country!


Kid, do you even know what a fascist government is? I mean, really, do you know the details? Not just IT WAS ITALY!

Bush, IMO, is more a liberal now, than he was before the election. He is beginning to sicken me(although, Kerry is not the better choice). His guest worker program, his constant harrassment of the troops, his unwillingness to close the borders and take steps necessary to achieve true national security. The man has no sense of nationalism. He is more worried about how Mexico is faring than his own country.


I'm supposing you don't agree with me then. And yes I do know what a fachist government is....

It's in my words simply a government that is centered around a dictator; this dictator is for the opression of any opposing ppl! This dictator is in lamens terms a biggot, simply a racist. And apparently you've done some homework, yes Italy was a facist government at one time, in fact it was founded in Italy, I think 1915 or 16, one of those I'm pretty sure. And yes this is Mussolini's version of National Socialism.

I think you or someone mentioned him stalling the lance bass marriage amendment after the election...

Well, this is true, however take into consideration he's had a lot on his plate lately with helping Indonesian, Indian, etc... areas that was affected by the Tsunami, the indocrination... I don't know about you but helping fellow men I believe is a little more important than taking down lance bass marriage. Plus the Man just finished and won a huge campaign, that's takes a lot of work to organize and a lot to clean up...

I don't expect you, me, or anybody to understand the pressure and stress a president has to go through to maintain the greatest country ever and support other countries at the same time.
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Postby nighthawk101 » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:45 pm

Guess Who? wrote:It's in my words simply a government that is centered around a dictator; this dictator is for the opression of any opposing ppl! This dictator is in lamens terms a biggot, simply a racist. And apparently you've done some homework, yes Italy was a facist government at one time, in fact it was founded in Italy, I think 1915 or 16, one of those I'm pretty sure. And yes this is Mussolini's version of National Socialism.


Mussolini's march on Rome was in 1922. And Fascism came before National Socialism. National Socialism is a tweaked and improved version of Fascism. Fascism is centered around a strong central headed military government. The Fascist dictator is not in it for "opressing" people. It is a very conservative government. It is about what is best for the state, not the individual person. In Nazi Germany, there was private land and business ownership as well as an open economy that surged to one of the best in the world. All of this after Versailles tore the country apart.

Guess Who? wrote:I think you or someone mentioned him stalling the lance bass marriage amendment after the election...

Well, this is true, however take into consideration he's had a lot on his plate lately with helping Indonesian, Indian, etc... areas that was affected by the Tsunami, the indocrination... I don't know about you but helping fellow men I believe is a little more important than taking down lance bass marriage. Plus the Man just finished and won a huge campaign, that's takes a lot of work to organize and a lot to clean up...

I don't expect you, me, or anybody to understand the pressure and stress a president has to go through to maintain the greatest country ever and support other countries at the same time.


Yeah, hes had a lot to do with Asia. He has sent money over there(dont know why... ) but he has. Thats it. Nothing else. He has now dropped the things that helped him get elected and he has moved on to other things.. such as the guest worker program, the intelligence bill(that allows states to grant illegals a drivers liscense), and importing more crops from Mexico instead of American farmers. The man is a globalist. Not a nationalist and not a conservative.
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Postby Guess Who? » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:52 pm

nighthawk101 wrote:Yeah, hes had a lot to do with Asia. He has sent money over there(dont know why... ) but he has. Thats it. Nothing else. He has now dropped the things that helped him get elected and he has moved on to other things.. such as the guest worker program, the intelligence bill(that allows states to grant illegals a drivers liscense), and importing more crops from Mexico instead of American farmers. The man is a globalist. Not a nationalist and not a conservative.


Yes he has, we've done more than anyone you tard! We have sent food we've sent our militants over, helped with tranportation (airplanes, helicopters, sent ATF's. God knows we've probably sent secret ops missions to Northern Sri Lanka because of the stupid rebels who won't let anyone help in a clean-up or to supply foods! My question is where the hell did you get ur info? :?
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Postby Guess Who? » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:55 pm

Oh and I forgot to add that the reason we've sent money is that 1) We've sent some to the Red Cross to do whatever they need to, to help, and we've sent some to various countries governments to do whatever they think their country needs most!
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Postby NateDawg2007 » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:11 pm

BUSH ROCKS YOU SUCK!! DONT BE A HATER
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Postby nighthawk101 » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:15 pm

Guess Who? wrote:
nighthawk101 wrote:Yeah, hes had a lot to do with Asia. He has sent money over there(dont know why... ) but he has. Thats it. Nothing else. He has now dropped the things that helped him get elected and he has moved on to other things.. such as the guest worker program, the intelligence bill(that allows states to grant illegals a drivers liscense), and importing more crops from Mexico instead of American farmers. The man is a globalist. Not a nationalist and not a conservative.


Yes he has, we've done more than anyone you tard! We have sent food we've sent our militants over, helped with tranportation (airplanes, helicopters, sent ATF's. God knows we've probably sent secret ops missions to Northern Sri Lanka because of the stupid rebels who won't let anyone help in a clean-up or to supply foods! My question is where the hell did you get ur info? :?


Where did I get my info on what.

Yes, we've have done more than anyone else... we have sent money. More money than anyone else. And for the most part, they Sri Lankan government has gotten it because of the muslim groups there. I dont believe there has been any government personnel that we have sent there. Could be wrong though, I dont keep my thumb on the pulse of the tsunami... because I dont care.

About sending money to other countries. We shouldnt. We shouldnt send foreign aid to ANY other countries. We have sponsored Israel since 1948 and they have grown dependent on us. When you see on the news an Israeli driving around in an M1 Abrhams, there is a problem. We are to concerned with the globe and not concerned enough with our own country.
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Postby nighthawk101 » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:15 pm

NateDawg2007 wrote:BUSH ROCKS YOU SUCK!! DONT BE A HATER


Again you respond with a completely uneducated answer. That of a 4 year old. Would you mind putting some thought into what you say?
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